Debian Decides; systemd vs. Upstart

OK, my .00002 cents worth. (sorry for the lengthyness of this post, it touched a nerve maybe or something close)
First, what is the problem with sysvinit?  OK, so systemd will do a complete userspace boot-up in 900ms.  So what?  Having personally tried systemd with VSIDO, I saw no ‘great’ benefits. OTOH, I have never tried Upstart.  (does using Upstart mean using Mir/Unity?)
Second, when you mention Upstart, all that I can think of is “we’re Shuttleworth’d”…
And third, why do we have to have one, or the other?  There are multiple choices now.  (As Digit so aptly mentions above)

Back to boot speeds, I read one posters comment, (on one of the other forums) and I’m paraphrasing here, if my system takes 3 to 5 minutes to boot, but once booted it remains solid and has no issues, then I don’t care.  Personally I think that the boot speeds that most people are talking about these days have more to do, generically, with UEFI than systemd. (yes, I know systemd drastically can reduce boot times, and have seen that with my own eyes) But, UEFI passes the boot off from the BIOS (read; slow) and directly to hardware, which, if your using an SSD, can seem instantaneous.  So, in a server environment, IMO, boot speeds tend to be irrelevant.  On a desktop (laptop) this becomes even more irrelevant. (unless of course, your James Bond, the earth is getting ready to explode, and you have to save the read more

Rabbit Hole

One derivative gives you everything, 
and one nothing at all
And the one that git will get you 
is the master of them all

Go ask billyball when it was 1000 feet tall

And if you go chasing UNIX, 
and you know it's going to fail
Tell them your neck beard had overcome you 
and the need was to learn

And call Linus, when he was so small

When the engine of the spiders 
take you where to go
And you just had an epiphany 
that showed you nothing at all

Go ask Google, they always know

When choices and decisions 
have led you to the end
And the watchtower is leading you 
to the mint valley
And the redhats and fedoras no longer fit
Remember what the savant said
information is the only power
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What is the future of VSIDO?

vsido_banner_luke80The first year of VSIDO was to see what the community would really want as it developed.  When I first put it together, I really just got it to a point that it could be released and it was roughly my desktop.

On subsequent builds, things would get added and I never paid close attention the the cruft that was also getting installed with updates.

When I made the decision to go to just FluxBox, I built it from scratch and one segment at a time and began the build process after each segment to see where and what was happening.  Through this process, I was able to use ncdu and really analyze what was going where.  This led to a critical look at just what applications made up VSIDO and make better decisions on additional things.  Really, the short answer is that I took a clear look at the build and streamlined it

I am quite happy right now with VSIDO and think it is at the point that I can sit back read more

Republic Of Gamers Forum Website

rog_logoThis is where I can vent and rage against the machine so-to-speak.  For the past 2 weeks, I’ve been trying to REGISTER at the ROG Forums website.  To no avail.  This is totally unacceptable as this is the community site for the Asus computers you purchase.  Their response is NONE, and that is even worse than someone being rude to you.  They just ignore you.  A $2000.00 laptop, you’d think they’d jump through hoops to be sure your happy with more than just the hardware.  This is apparently not the case.  I see that current users there are posting as the dates suggest an always active forum crowd.  Perhaps they’ve reached their limit for users?  Well I guess I’ll never know as I can’t get a response from them as to why I can’t sign up with my EXISTING Asus Member account, which is connected to my REGISTERED G55VW ROG Gamers Laptop!  So if you had to say this was a read more

Desktop Environments in VSIDO

 

Xfce4currentFor the past few days, I’ve been playing with alternative DE’s for my Debian distro currently running on my laptop. The technical jargon for the distro I’m currently running is “Debian GNU/Linux 7.0-VSIDO. This translates to Debian Sid. The minimal install I started with came by default with Xfce4.10 or Openbox as the desktop environment. And all was good! In the spirit of honest reporting, I never really gave a OB chance. In my defense, I started out using Xfce4 and just never really looked back. I have a good friend Bruce, in the Linux community who swears by Openbox. I just haven’t given it a close enough look to include any pro’s or con’s here in this post.  Perhaps in the next few weeks, I can persuade Bruce to write a post touting it’s (Openbox) horn, so-to-speak!

Before going to the ‘pure’ Debian side of things, I’d been happily using Ubuntu as anyone read more